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Grand Kartal Hotel in 2007 A fire at a ski resort hotel (pictured) in Kartalkaya, Turkey, leaves at least 79 people dead and 51 others injured. A series of attacks by the National Liberation Army in the Catatumbo region of Colombia leaves more than a hundred people dead. A ceasefire agreement suspends the Israel–Hamas war, involving the release of Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners. Two Supreme Court judges are assassinated in a shooting at the Supreme Court of Iran in Tehran. Ongoing: Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Russell Marshall Didier Guillaume Denis Law Hans Dobida Linda Nolan Tommy Brown view — page history — related changes — edit

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January 23

Portal:Current events/2025 January 23
January 23, 2025 (2025-01-23) (Thursday)

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Nomination header

Article: Same-sex marriage in Thailand (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thailand becomes the 38th country and the first in Southeast Asia to legalize same-sex marriage. (Post)
News source(s): TIME Metro
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Historic event. ArionStar (talk) 00:06, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

January 22

Portal:Current events/2025 January 22

January 22, 2025 (2025-01-22) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis The Houthis report that 25 crew members of the Japanese-operated roll-on/roll-off ship Galaxy Leader, including many foreign nationals, are released to Oman, with the Houthis citing support for the 2025 Israel–Hamas ceasefire as the reason for release. (BBC) Disasters and accidents 2025 California wildfires January 2025 Southern California wildfires Hughes Fire The Hughes Fire ignites and spreads to over 5,000 acres in less than four hours, triggering mandatory evacuation orders in settlements around Castaic Lake in Los Angeles County, California. (Los Angeles Times) (KTLA) January 20–22, 2025 Gulf Coast blizzard The death toll of a historic winter storm event on the Gulf Coast of the United States rises to 9 people. 8 in (20 cm) of snowfall is measured at Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport in Louisiana. The statewide snowfall record in Florida is broken as over 5.5 in (14 cm) falls in Molino. (CNN) At least 11 people killed in a rail accident in western Maharashtra, India. (Al Arabiya) Law and crime Two people are killed, including a two-year-old boy, and two others are injured in a mass stabbing at a park in Aschaffenburg, Bavaria, Germany. The perpetrator is arrested. (Al Arabiya) One person is killed and two others are injured in a mass stabbing at Nagano Station in Nagano, Japan. (Mainichi) One student is killed and another one is wounded in a school shooting at Antioch High School in Nashville, Tennessee, United States. (CNN) United States President Donald Trump re-designates the Houthis as a foreign terrorist organization. (The Hill) Kyle Clifford, the perpetrator of the Hunt family killings in Bushey, England in 2024, pleads guilty to three counts of murder. (BBC News) Politics and elections Constitutional crisis in Somalia, Transport in Somalia The Somali Airlines Operators Association, representing at least 20 airlines, has suspended all flights starting January 22, 2025, in protest against increased government-imposed fees after disputes with the Ministry of Aviation and the Somali Civil Aviation Authority. (Shabelle Media) (Hiiraan Online)

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(Ready) January 2025 Gulf Coast blizzard

Article: January 20–22, 2025 Gulf Coast blizzard (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The first recorded blizzard in the Gulf Coast of the United States (snowfall pictured in Carlyss, Louisiana) results in at least ten deaths and more than $14 billion in damage. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A winter storm in the Gulf Coast of the United States (snowfall pictured in Carlyss, Louisiana) results in record snowfall across several states and at least ten deaths.
News source(s): CNN USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Unusual and impactful event. ArionStar (talk) 22:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose routine season weather (at least, in the face of climate change). Unless it causes significant deaths or damage, we don't post routine weather events. Masem (t) 22:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

  It is the first blizzard recorded in the Gulf Coast history and caused $14-$17 billion in damage… ArionStar (talk) 23:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Support 10 inches of snow in New Orleans per NBC. Also, 5.5 inches of snow in Florida, a new record. 9 deaths isn't that much but given the state of infrastructure in the South being more prepared for heatwaves than cold snaps and blizzards that toll is going to rise a lot. I'd hold out on the monetary toll, though. Departure– (talk) 23:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - "routine season weather" is absurd. And I wonder why non-hurricane weather is almost never featured at ITN... E_F⁵ 23:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

  Perhaps people are missing the context? This is the deep South. It rarely ever snows down here. Especially in New Orleans and Florida. Especially when you get 10 inches (25 cm) at once. Departure– (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

  And the blizzard has been described as "once-in-a-generation" event. ArionStar (talk) 23:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

  Which is being blind to the effects of climate change. This weather will certainly happen again thanks to that, it's not once in a generation. — Masem (t) 23:28, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, but for now this is significant, and the "oh, just climate change" rationale shouldn't undermine that. Will we stop featuring Cat. 5 hurricanes if every one is bigger than the one a year before, assuming they happen yearly? E_F⁵ 23:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support New Orleans received 10 inches of snow, when most years it receives 0, let alone a blizzard TheHiddenCity (talk) 23:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Support as this is clearly a historic blizzard. Norbillian (talk) 23:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Unusual and perhaps entirely unprecedented meteorological event. Consider the fact that the damages in this situation likely don't factor in economic disruption, which will likely be quite high given poor road conditions are expected to persist through the end of the workweek in areas such as New Orleans. I have proposed an alt that adjusts a few things (I believe recorded records to be the main story here, actually, and I think "blizzard" is a bit misleading in this scenario; from what I heard, the full conditions for a "blizzard" were ultimately not met, even if "blizzard conditions" were present in some locales at some times). DarkSide830 (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Tabish Mehdi

Article: Tabish Mehdi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Inquilab, Daily Jasarat
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Khaatir (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian poet, a literary critic, journalist, and writer. Khaatir (talk) 18:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Charles A. Doswell III

Article: Charles A. Doswell III (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Meteoweb
Credits:

• Nominated by Wildfireupdateman (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Meteorology researcher who pioneered the modern model of the supercell. I have notability/quality concerns but putting it here to see what others think. Wildfireupdateman (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose Research should be better detailed, and there's an unsourced paragraph in there. Departure– (talk) 18:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 21

Portal:Current events/2025 January 21

January 21, 2025 (2025-01-21) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Catatumbo campaign 2025 Catatumbo attacks Fourteen members of the 33rd Front of the FARC dissidents, including one minor, surrendered to personnel from the National Army of Colombia to avoid combat with the ELN. (Blu Radio) The Office of the Inspector General of Colombia warns that about 46,000 schoolchildren have not been able to start the academic year due to the ongoing conflict in the region and asserted that about 35% of the affected displaced population are individuals under the age of 18. (El Espectador) Kivu conflict M23 offensive M23 rebels seize the town of Minova in Kalehe Territory, Democratic Republic of the Congo, cutting off a major supply route to the strategic city of Goma. (Reuters) Israeli incursions in the West Bank 2025 Israeli raid on Jenin Israeli forces launch a large-scale raid in the Jenin refugee camp, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, killing at least ten people and injuring more than 35 others. (Al Jazeera) Four people are injured, one seriously, in a stabbing attack in Tel Aviv, Israel. The Shin Bet confirmed that the attacker was 28 years old from Morocco and had American permanent residency. (BBC) (The Times of Israel) (Xinhua) Syrian civil war Six people are killed in Homs Governorate, Syria, as security forces conduct an operation against militias supporting ousted president Bashar al-Assad. (Al Arabiya) Mexican drug war Former regional prosecutor of Cuautitlán Elohim Díaz Jiménez and coffee businessman Cristian Muñoz are shot dead inside a restaurant in Metepec, State of Mexico, by gunmen disguised as food delivery workers. (El Universal) Business and economy Infrastructure policy of Donald Trump The Stargate Project U.S. President Donald Trump unveils "the largest AI infrastructure project in history", a joint venture between OpenAI, Oracle, and SoftBank, called Stargate. With funding of up to $500 billion in the next 4 years, the project aims to build data centers and computing infrastructure across the United States to power AI development and create over 100,000 jobs. (The Guardian) President Trump announces a pause in $300 billion of funding for green infrastructure previously allocated in the Inflation Reduction Act and Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. (Financial Times) Disasters and accidents 2025 California wildfires January 2025 Southern California wildfires Multiple brush fires spread by hurricane-force winds erupt in San Diego County, California, U.S., prompting evacuation orders. (USA Today) 2024–2025 floods in Southeast Asia and South Asia Sixteen people are killed in floods and landslides in Central Java Province, Indonesia. (ABC) 2025 Kartalkaya hotel fire At least 76 people are killed and another 51 injured in a fire at the Grand Kartal hotel in Kartalkaya, Bolu Province, Turkey. (Reuters) Much of Canada and the contiguous United States are impacted by a cold wave, killing one person near Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Historic snowfall is expected in the US South, and historic blizzard and whiteout conditions are expected on the Gulf Coast. (CNN) One person is killed and another is injured in an explosion at the Port in Barcelona, Spain. (Reuters) Twenty Ethiopian migrants are killed when their boat capsizes off Yemen after departing from Djibouti, according to the International Organization for Migration. (Al Arabiya) International relations Afghanistan–United States relations Two Americans held in Afghanistan are freed in exchange for a Taliban fighter in the United States. The deal is brokered by Qatar and finalized during the final hours of the outgoing Biden administration. (DW) Law and crime U.S. President Donald Trump pardons Ross Ulbricht, the creator of the Silk Road. Ulbricht was serving a life sentence for charges including conspiracy to commit money laundering, hacking, and drug trafficking. (Axios)

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RD: Mauricio Funes

Article: Mauricio Funes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, Rtrs
Credits:

• Nominated by Moscow Mule (talk · give credit)
• Updated by PizzaKing13 (talk · give credit), SalvadoranSoldier (talk · give credit) and Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: President of El Salvador 2009–14 (FMLN), died in exile in Nicaragua on 21 Jan. Moscow Mule (talk) 17:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment This should be a blurb as Funes was the head of both state and government in El Salvador. Departure– (talk) 17:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Support, weak oppose blurb - Funes is nowhere near as well known than other world leaders. I might be thinking with a hint of Americentrism though. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment. I'd be surprised if he was deemed worthy of a blurb. It's not automatic for former heads of state/govt: Carter/Fujimori/Mandela/Thatcher he wasn't. There might be a case to be argued on the grounds of the "symbolic" importance of the handover of power after the Civil War, but it's not a strong one. Moscow Mule (talk) 18:10, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose blurb not a serving head of state/gov't. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support RD - article looks fine for that. No need for a blurb ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 20:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Francisco San Martin

Article: Francisco San Martin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LA Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish American actor. Death announced 21 January. Thriley (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Stub, under threat of CSD. Moscow Mule (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose and suggest close under procedure Article is 1 sentence long and is under AfD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 20:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose and close unless article is dramatically improved. A one-sentence stub. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Garth Hudson

Article: Garth Hudson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Toronto Star, Ultimate Classic Rock
Credits:

• Nominated by GeoGreg (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American musician, member of The Band, death announced today. GeoGreg (talk) 18:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Article needs some citation work before it can be put on ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 19:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Jules Feiffer

Article: Jules Feiffer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post, The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by NathanielTheBold (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American cartoonist, death announced today. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose 2 CN tags - and the Selected Works section needs some citation patch work. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Kartalkaya hotel fire

Article: 2025 Kartalkaya hotel fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A fire in a ski resort hotel in Kartalkaya, Bolu Province, Turkey, kills at least 66 people and injures 51 others. (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
• Created by BSRF (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Chorchapu (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Another tragedy. Another article to work. ArionStar (talk) 13:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Like all of my other votes, Oppose on quality but Support on notability Bloxzge 025 (talk) 13:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bloxzge 025: in good shape now. ArionStar (talk) 14:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Looking better but still can be improved. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support 66 dead. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 14:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support 66 dead & counting, in a fairly developed country to boot. JayCubby 15:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support at least Seventy a significant fatal incident.QalasQalas (talk) 15:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak support seems a substantial event with a surprisingly high death toll. But the article is disappointingly light on details or context - it's a basic news report. Good enough to post but I'd like to see better content. Modest Genius ^talk 15:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose tragic, but lacks long-term significance. 2A02:8071:78E3:DE40:8A7:24DA:C40D:85CB (talk) 16:06, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Of course not, as the death toll can rise and an investigation is already underway. ArionStar (talk) 16:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• I share the concerns expressed by Modest Genius. Schwede66 17:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak oppose per Modest Genius. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - The event is significant enough for sure but until the article is expanded a bit more I don't think it should be posted. Certainly not ready in the current state. ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 18:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support – Rest in peace to peoples who died from the fire. I know some peoples opposing it, but the article will be expand soon and the death toll might be rise. Bakhos Let's talk! 18:44, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Weak Support - article is slightly stubby. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 18:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Wait: 24 hours or so, see if the article gets fleshed out? As it currently stands, it's not something we should be proud to put on the main page. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Definitely worthy of being on the main page, at least 76 have died and 51 are injured. Chorchapu (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:NEWSEVENT. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  There are 76+ deaths (and sadly counting) and it's a significant event. Definitely notable 🔥Jalapeño🔥 contribs 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

WP:NEWSEVENT explains "Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, "shock" news, ...) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance. I'm not seeing anything further in this case. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Posted - consensus that it's significant enough to post, and also rough consensus that quality is just about there. Hopefully it will be expanded further as more details emerge.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Håkon Bleken

Article: Håkon Bleken (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NRK, abcnyheter.no
Credits:

• Nominated by Oceanh (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwegian painter. Needs more updates. Oceanh (talk) 11:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Some statements in the article still need citations. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:39, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Trump executive orders

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: List of executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Incoming US President Donald Trump (pictured) issues a flurry of executive orders including withdrawal from the Paris Agreement and the World Health Organization (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NYT, Al Jazeera, DW
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by AndrewRT (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Pauliesnug (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: These executive orders are in the news and include internationally significant actions such as withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement and the WHO. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Fixing nomination header from 'nomination header' to current title. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Thanks. There must be a lot of cut-and-paste when preparing the orders too. I trust they also have someone carefully proof-reading them. :) Andrew🐉(talk) 11:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment See also United States withdrawals from the Paris Agreement as a potential target article.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - 1) he already campaigned on doing this, so this action was entirely expected, 2) both withdrawals already happened last time, and 3) a nomination for the 1st WHO withdrawal was made in July 7 2020 and failed to gain consensus. The Paris Agreement one was posted in June 2017, though I'd note that a second withdrawal doesn't have the same impact the original one did. This isn't the American Wikipedia; this is the English Wikipedia. Not everything that Donald Trump does needs to be ITN. And these executive orders were not the most important; he also signed an executive order (illegally) trying to end birthright citizenship for immigrants who came in illegally, declared a state of emergency at the southern border, and an executive order proclaiming only two genders. 2A02:C7C:2DCE:1F00:C5C1:C762:3EA7:2882 (talk) 11:44, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

The nominated article lists all of the orders. The selection of examples in the blurb can be expanded or amended to taste. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:25, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Front-page news in Europe, of international political significance. Also nice Bond villain headshot on the main page. Sandstein 11:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Sandstein: All that's missing is a pair of tiny hands stroking a white cat. Kurtis ^(talk) 16:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Whilst these first orders might be more headline-friendly than usual, we aren't a Donald Trump news ticker. He also withdrew the USA from the Paris Agreement in 2017, so that's hardly surprising news at all. Black Kite (talk) 12:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

We posted other unsurprising changes to international organizations recently such as Bulgaria joining Schengen and Indonesia joining BRICS. This bundle seems to be a bigger deal. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

And then what about the next bundle? and the one after that? Black Kite (talk) 15:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

It appears that this is an exceptional salvo but the nominated article will continue to cover any further orders. If the stream of orders remains a significant topic, as it is currently, then it can be put into Ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose He promised this, this happened. There's nothing surprising here. In addition, the focus on Paris and WHO are likely the lowest of issues of importance that his EOs addressed, as there's far more furor over, for example, eliminating birthright citizenship (which is certainly going to be in legal limbo for a while). ITN is not a news ticker. --Masem (t) 12:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  There's a big difference between a promise and a decision that comes into effect (in this case, it's the former), and promises made by politicians during campaigns are usually not very reliable. He also promised to buy Greenland. Would you oppose it if that actually happens?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  If the actual legal transfer of Greenland from Denmark to the US actually happens, yes, but even EOs are not actual actions since most of these are likely to be tied up in legal actions Masem (t) 14:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose and snow close We are not a Trump news ticker. The Kip ^(contribs) 14:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose and snow close a politician doing politics. We will talk about it when the country's withdrawal from the WHO and the Paris Agreement is formalized. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Agreed, and only if those withdrawals get significant international news coverage (which it probably will), especially with the WHO. Can I has Cheezburger? (talk) 17:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Routine government functions. Not everything Trump is news. Flibirigit (talk) 15:10, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article (or a mention ITN). Estreyeria (talk) 15:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - Front-page news everywhere PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:44, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait on the Paris Agreement and WHO withdrawals, oppose the other orders or lumping them together, strong oppose on quality. Taking the US out of the Paris Agreement is hugely consequential for the entire world, not just the US. I know Trump did the same thing in his first term, but the process took years and had barely taken effect when Biden reversed the decision. For that exact reason, we should wait until the US actually exits the agreement, not just Trump's order telling his officials to do so. The WHO is a similar situation though perhaps not quite as impactful. The other executive orders are domestic politics that ITN avoids, and lumping them all together to make one blurb is a bad idea. The article is just a list with no context or explanation of what these orders actually do, utterly unsuited to being a bold link on the Main Page. Modest Genius ^talk 15:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose all the above. It’s not even the top story of what Trump did yesterday or today, and likely won’t be tomorrow or the next day either. nableezy - 16:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Agree with Modest Genius. This is a very poor nom barely defining what exactly is the main topic area for which to determine notability (we do not post broad lumpen lists like this). ITN regulars should not be making such mistakes. Gotitbro (talk) 16:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose just signing a bunch of orders is very nonspecific. If there was one in particular that stuck out maybe, but this is simply too broad to be useful. Withdrawal from the climate accords and WHO may be more acceptable, but would be best left til they actually happen. La Ovo (talk) 17:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose This is not Trump's personal news station. Maybe the Paris Agreement and WHO withdrawals, but not all the executive orders he's signed in the past 24 hours. qw3rty 18:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

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January 20

Portal:Current events/2025 January 20

January 20, 2025 (2025-01-20) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Catatumbo campaign 2025 Catatumbo attacks Colombian president Gustavo Petro declares a state of emergency in response to rebel attacks in the Catatumbo region. (MSN) The death toll from fighting in the Catatumbo region, Colombia, increases to more than 100 as the National Liberation Army (ELN) launches more attacks. The Colombian government vows "war" against the ELN with Colombian president Gustavo Petro saying that the group has "chosen the path of war, and a war they will have". (The Guardian) More than 11,000 people flee to the city of Cúcuta as ELN rebels clash with the 33rd Front of the FARC dissidents. Authorities say more than 20,000 people have now been internally displaced due to recent fighting. (France 24) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukrainian drones attack industrial facilities in Tatarstan, Russia, prompting the Russian Federal Air Transport Agency to temporarily suspend flights at Kazan International Airport in Kazan and Begishevo Airport in Nizhnekamsk. (ABC News) Israel–Hamas war An IDF reservist is killed and four others are injured, including a senior officer in critical condition, after their MDT David light armored vehicle hits a roadside bomb during a patrol in Tammun in the West Bank. (Times of Israel) The Palestinian Civil Defence (PCD) states that the remains of 137 people have been recovered from Rafah in the Gaza Strip since the start of the ceasefire. The PCD estimates that there are 10,000 bodies buried under rubble left to be recovered. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy Kingdom Holding announces the resumption of construction on the 1,000 metres (3,300 ft)-tall Jeddah Tower in Saudi Arabia, which is expected to be the world's tallest building. (Al Arabiya) Law and crime January 6 United States Capitol attack Pardon of January 6 United States Capitol attack defendants United States President Donald Trump formally pardons around 1,500 defendants who had been criminally charged with involvement in the January 6 United States Capitol attack. Fourteen convicted individuals have their sentences commuted to time served. (NBC News) 2024 Kolkata rape and murder A court in Kolkata, India, sentences a 33-year-old police volunteer to life in prison for raping and murdering a medical trainee in August 2024. (DW) 2024 Southport stabbing Axel Rudakubana pleads guilty to all 16 charges, including three charges of murder in relation to a mass stabbing in Southport, Merseyside, England, in July 2024. Rudakubana is expected to be sentenced on Thursday. (ITV News) Capital punishment in China China executes the perpetrators of the 2024 Zhuhai car attack and the 2024 Wuxi stabbing attack. (Al Jazeera) China–Philippines relations Philippine police arrest a student of the People's Liberation Army for allegedly attempting to spy on several military facilities, including U.S.-accessible bases under the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement. (Reuters) Presidency of Joe Biden Outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden issues pre-emptive pardons for his siblings, former Chief Medical Advisor Anthony Fauci, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley and members of the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack prior to President-elect Donald Trump's inauguration. Biden also commutes the sentence of Indigenous activist and convicted murderer Leonard Peltier. (BBC News) (HuffPost) Eight people are killed and seven others are injured in an arson attack at a nursing home in Barajevo, Belgrade, Serbia. (Reuters) Politics and elections Second presidency of Donald Trump Second inauguration of Donald Trump Donald Trump and JD Vance are inaugurated as the 47th president and 50th vice president of the United States in Washington, D.C., with Trump becoming the first president since Grover Cleveland to serve non-consecutive terms. (AP) The inauguration is held indoors in the United States Capitol rotunda due to extreme cold temperatures, making it the first inauguration since 1985 to be held indoors. (Today.com) During celebrations of the inauguration, businessman Elon Musk makes two gestures to a crowd at the Capital One Arena that some on social media liken to Nazi salutes. The gestures were made as Musk thanked the crowd, stating "My heart goes out to you." Musk denied any meaning behind the gestures. (BBC News) (The Independent) (AJ) Executive orders in the second presidency of Donald Trump On his first day of his second term, Trump signs his first executive orders on gender and immigration, and also signs an order ending usage of the CBP One app. (Boston Globe) Trump signs the Putting America First In International Environmental Agreements executive order directing the U.S. to withdraw from the Paris Agreement. (AP) Trump signs an executive order directing the U.S. to withdraw from the World Health Organization. (Reuters) Trump signs executive orders calling for the renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the "Gulf of America" and for Denali to return to its former name "Mount McKinley". The rename would apply to all references from the federal government. (CBS News) Trump declares illegal immigration a national emergency under the National Emergencies Act. (Reuters) Trump officially creates the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) led by Elon Musk aimed at cutting spending of the U.S. government. DOGE is a temporary organization under the United States DOGE Service, not a federal executive department. Within minutes of the announcement, government employee unions, watchdog groups, and public interest organizations sued over this executive order. (Reuters) Trump signs an executive order to delay enforcement of the law banning TikTok in the United States for 75 days. (CNN) Trump revokes Biden's removal of Cuba from the state sponsors of terrorism list. (Reuters) Protests against Donald Trump Anti-Trump protests are held in cities across the United States, as well as in other countries, such as Mexico, Panama, and the United Kingdom. (The Guardian) Second cabinet of Donald Trump The United States Senate unanimously confirms Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, making him the first Cabinet official of Trump's second term to be confirmed by the Senate. Rubio also becomes the first Latino American to serve as Secretary of State. (The Hill) Sports 2025 College Football Playoff National Championship In American football, the Ohio State Buckeyes win their 9th college football championship, defeating the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. (Fox Sports)

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RD: John Sykes

Article: John Sykes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:CC27:6B75:1481:D667 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by SilverBullitt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Guitarist for Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy and Tygers of Pan Tang. Death announced on Jan 20. 240F:7A:6253:1:CC27:6B75:1481:D667 (talk) 17:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

2024–25 College Football Playoff

Article: 2025 College Football Playoff National Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In college football Ohio State defeats Notre Dame to win the 2024–25 College Football Playoff. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In college football the Ohio State Buckeyes defeat the Notre Dame Fighting Irish to win the 2024–25 College Football Playoff.
News source(s): Guardian live updates
Credits:

• Nominated by Sagittarian Milky Way (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: They finally found a way to hike tournament size from 4 teams to 12 removing or greatly weakening one of the arguments against posting. Tradition+New Years Six tourism beneficiaries is why it took so long (college football started 1869 AD). Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Amateur sport. We post the Super Bowl as it is the top, professional event in football for the US.Noah, BSBA^Talk 01:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Is it really amateur if most if not all of the payers are on sports scholarships to their respective colleges? HiLo48 (talk) 03:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Being amateur is irrelevant; we post the college basketball championship, which is not the top, professional event in its sport in the U.S. – and college football is actually more popular than that. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  We largely refrain from posting amateur sports. Historically, we have only posted the top event in each sport for each country here. I see no reason to start posting the national championship for football now. Noah, BSBA^Talk 01:25, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Historically, we have only posted the top event in each sport for each country here. – nope, not true. We post the less popular college basketball championship which is not the top basketball championship in the U.S. And college football is amateur in name only at this point: last year, over a dozen college players made more money from playing than Super Bowl quarterback Brock Purdy. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it is because it's not considered professional football. That is the NFL which college athletes graduate to when they are drafted by a team. A scholarship is different than a salary. Noah, BSBA^Talk 03:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Man, I hate to be the one to tell you about the NIL, but college players are being paid salaries now. Scuba 21:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Support top level of college football, any claim that it is amateur is clearly coming from people who have never watched a game of D1 college football in their lives. Scuba 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

'College football' is not a separate sport. The top level of American Football is the Superb Owl. GenevieveDEon (talk) 00:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

If "Canadian Football" is a separate sport (we post the grey cup), then College Football is also a separate sport, since the rules are just as different. I'm sure that Owl is really Superb. Scuba 15:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong Support This is the major championship of probably the 2nd or 3rd most popular sport in the US. Anyone opposing on the basis of "amateur" status is so ill-informed that they really shouldn't be commenting at all. How it isn't ITN/R is beyond me. If this isn't ITN/R, then we need to get rid of about 2/3s of the recurring events listed on that page. LocoTacoFever (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

"This is the major championship..." - No, it's not. That's the Superbowl. This is nothing like that. GenevieveDEon (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not American, and was commenting from an international perspective. College footballers obviously don't pay their own way. You internal definition is not a globally recognised one. HiLo48 (talk) 04:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

They make up to $6.2 million from side money like their share of college football video game name image license rights without getting paid (Spain website). Recent lawsuit made it illegal to not do that when NFL players get their cut of NFL video game right to use their name etc fees. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment It's still January 20 in America, so this should be moved to yesterday. Departure– (talk) 01:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Moved. Masem (t) 01:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

It's not UTC date? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:39, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

ITNC should be posted on the date based on the date first reported, which we have usually taken to be in the country where the event happens if it is localized like that. — Masem (t) 03:02, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Can we stop proposing these noms before the winner of the game in question is determined? DarkSide830 (talk) 01:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability, once winner determined. This is a massive, massive deal in the U.S. – the second biggest sporting event in the U.S. annually. Its becoming larger and more popular each year (notably, the size of the bracket was tripled this year) and increasingly more covered internationally (last year I presented articles on it in a dozen different countries on multiple continents) – over 700 players were non-US as of 2022 ("Record number of international athletes proves college football is now global"), and its amateur in name only: as shown above, 16 players made more playing college football last year than Super Bowl starting quarterback Brock Purdy (even one high school recruit I made an article for will receive several million per year for signing with a particular team). Not that being amateur would prevent posting, however, as we post the equivalent-but-less-popular college basketball championship. Attendance regularly gets near 100,000 for some teams, with most of the largest sports stadiums in the world being for college football. I previously made a comparison of the viewership for the college football championship compared to numerous other ITN events and it bested nearly every single one we post, including all but one of those in the U.S. That includes events such as the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Finals and the World Series, which the CFP beats by large margins. Further, describing this as a "second-tier" league to the NFL shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how college football works – its a whole different thing from the NFL. This is extremely obviously an event notable enough to post, and it deserves to be featured. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Wait The game is not over yet. ArionStar (talk) 02:36, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability per Beanie. The Kip ^(contribs) 04:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - I’ve changed my view a bit on this, and I’ve come down on the side that this really isn’t that big a news story, and that we post way too many sports stories as is. Yes, it’s considerably bigger than many things in ITNR, but I think that’s best dealt with by paring ITNR down quite a bit and not posting what’s a fairly trivial story. nableezy - 05:28, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose I've always been against posting amateur sport events (I'm still against posting the NCAA event though it was pushed through as an ITN/R item.), so my view on this is still a resounding no despite the claims about its commercial success. Moreover, there's no indication that this event has had any major impact on popularising the sport amongst the young population around the globe over the past 15 years as there are no newly established equivalent competitions in other countries (As a comparison, snooker has become a major sport in China over the same period.).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose not the top level of the sport. I don't think we should be posting any university sporting events (Boat Race, NCAA etc.) and have consistently opposed them all for years. Yes the NCAA basketball is currently on INTR, but I would rather see that removed from the list than compound the error by posting college football as well. I appreciate this event has an unusually outsized cultural impact in the US, including TV audience. However American football is really only popular in one country and we already post the Superbowl every year - that's enough coverage for what is a minority sport in global terms. The argument that college football and the NFL are different sports is spurious - there are only very minor rules adjustments, less than the difference between NHL and IIHF ice hockey, which no-one considers different sports. Modest Genius ^talk 12:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Is Canadian football a different sport? Its cup is rightfully on+its rules are different enough that their attempt @ a binational expansion+some but not all crossover players failed but similar enough that many Canadians are fans of American football or both. Even 1st or 2nd college football draft picks can+have failed to adjust to the NFL the strategy's different. More games, longer season, smaller rosters, better defense, less off-season to try to fully recover from that, lower average scores. Defense is so hard to learn they rarely if ever master it till they're already in NFL. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Modest Genius. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Considering that new NIL deals mean that top college players make more than some low-end professional players, can we really consider NCAA college ball to be 'amateur'? Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - We don't post the Boat Race, we don't post other nations' student events, we shouldn't post this. (And we also shouldn't post NCAA Basketball.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support — Nowadays, college football isn't really an "amateur" version of American football but rather just a different version of it, one that is massively popular in the United States (and, in ITNC lingo, whose conclusion was widely covered by reliable sources). And I disagree with the idea that we only post the "top" competition in each sport. The World Cup is undoubtedly the highest and most prestigious level of competition in international football, but we still post the UEFA Euro and Copa America, for instance. And, of course, as many have mentioned, we do indeed post the NCAA college basketball tournament in the U.S. DecafPotato (talk) 01:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

  College football playoffs last year had about 15 M viewers. The Super Bowl nearly 100 M. The latest World Cup was estimated to be 5 billion worldwide. It is extremely clear that association football has massive worldwide interest that featuring only the World Cup would be trivializing the sport. Masem (t) 01:20, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Quality article, covered widely in the press. In general, I favor posting major university-level sporting events as long as there is a quality article. Spencer^T•C 03:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Whilst I wouldn't post the NCAA either, I can at least admit that it gets decent coverage outside the USA, i.e. on BBC Sport. This event, however, does not appear in the news to that level at all - for example there does not appear to be a BBC Sport story on it at all; there is a Sky Sports story but it's not on the front pages and is indeed buried down as the 7th story on the NFL page. Black Kite (talk) 15:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
  • International coverage? You mean like throughout Canada, in Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Spain, Switzerland, and last year there was also Israel, Japan and others? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 Catatumbo attacks

Article: 2025 Catatumbo attacks (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A series of attacks perpetrated by the National Liberation Army in the Catatumbo region, Colombia, results in more than 100 deaths and several others injured, kidnapped and displaced. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A series of attacks in the Catatumbo region of Colombia leave several people dead, kidnapped and displaced, while president Gustavo Petro declares state of emergency.
Alternative blurb II: ​ A series of attacks by the National Liberation Army in the Catatumbo region of Colombia leave more than a hundred people dead, and president Gustavo Petro declares state of emergency.
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The article is under construction but we have relevant events in the Colombian conflict. ArionStar (talk) 02:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support on notability as it’s a major escalation of the previously-quiet Colombian conflict. Oppose on quality, however, as the article’s still quite short. The Kip ^(contribs) 02:56, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  Waiting for updated news; I have difficulties editing infoboxes, could someone help me? ArionStar (talk) 03:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  @ArionStar Tried my best to do so. The Kip ^(contribs) 03:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  Thanks! Improvements  Done. @The Kip: better now? ArionStar (talk) 04:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Per the List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts, this war has been ongoing since 1964 and there were over two thousand deaths last year. And the similar cartel/drug wars in Mexico are even worse. This incident is therefore just a drop in the ocean and not significant per WP:NEWSEVENT. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:59, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Andrew Davidson it’s been decades since any single attack in this conflict has killed anything even close to this many people. Are you genuinely serious? The Kip ^(contribs) 16:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  The nomination is for a "series of attacks" not a single attack. The List of ongoing armed conflicts gets its numbers from ACLED. This has a detailed report on Colombia in recent years. This includes a chart of "Violent events involving armed groups" for each year from 2018 to 2024 and these seem quite steady with about 2,000 killed each year. Q.E.D. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:11, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - this is clearly in the news per [1][2][3] and 80 people killed is way beyond the unofficial never-to-be-mentioned "WP:MINIMUMDEATHS" threshold that I would personally consider an indicator of significance. Quality looks reasonable for a short article too  — Amakuru (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support per Amakuru, he said it perfectly. It's in the news, an unusually high number of deaths, and the article quality is sufficient given the recent nature of the attacks (shorter is to be expected when recency is a factor). Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:26, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephen: please, include "results in more than a hundred deaths and several others injured, kidnapped and displaced". It is a important part of the event. ArionStar (talk) 00:00, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Better: "A series of attacks in the Catatumbo region of Colombia leave several people dead, kidnapped and displaced, while president Gustavo Petro declares state of emergency". ArionStar (talk) 01:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Those are details best left to the article. Stephen 02:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Not about the state of emergency declaration. ArionStar (talk) 02:37, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephen: An earlier item used "A series of wildfires [...] leaves". Is "A series of attacks [...] leave" intentional here? J3133 (talk) 11:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Fixed, thanks. Stephen 18:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephen: I think to add "while president Gustavo Petro declares state of emergency" is appropriate. ArionStar (talk) 21:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Cecile Richards

Article: Cecile Richards (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 15:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

:Weak oppose 2 uncited awards at the end, but the article looks good otherwise. Departure– (talk) 15:14, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has enough citations and length for ITNRD. The uncited awards have photo evidence in the article. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 15:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  I see another citation in the article for the presidential award but nothing for the Legion of Honour. Departure– (talk) 15:48, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  I am only finding it on Instagram, so far. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  In that case, I'm challenging and removing the claim. Instagram isn't an RS for addding an award like this. Support on quality. Departure– (talk) 17:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Second inauguration of Donald Trump

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Article: Second inauguration of Donald Trump (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Donald Trump is inaugurated for a second non-consecutive term as President of the United States. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Donald Trump and JD Vance are inaugurated as President and Vice President of the United States.
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by JohnAdams1800 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This occurs at noon EST today. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 14:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - A routine event that is the consequence of another event - the November election - which we already covered. GenevieveDEon (talk) 14:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Consensus in the past has been against the posting of inaugurations. Masem (t) 14:39, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. We already posted the election results and don't double up with inaugurations as well. Also, it hasn't happened yet. Modest Genius ^talk 14:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong oppose we posted the election months ago. Unless we see another capitol attack, there's hardly anything notable about this inauguration over the election that preceded it. Except, it's taking place... inside? In that case, we should post the cold wave that's affecting half of the US today, because I can tell you right now that's actually going to be newsworthy even if it isn't posted. Departure– (talk) 14:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Support meets all the criteria for posting. It is in the news (very much so), it is notable and with some minor improvements the article will be up to shape. 2A02:8071:78E3:DE40:3DEF:5E7B:72CC:6A64 (talk) 14:46, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose presidential inaugurations are not ITNR nor ITN-worthy. Consensus must be kept in mind so as not to have this discussion every four years. And in fact, the formal ceremony has not even begun. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose and snow close per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 15:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Strong oppose Trump was already elected in November, this is just a normal consequence of that. We didn't post Biden's inauguration nor Trump's first. OTD already has a link to Inauguration Day for anyone looking for it on the front page. PolarManne (talk) 15:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

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January 19

Portal:Current events/2025 January 19

January 19, 2025 (2025-01-19) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Catatumbo campaign 2025 Catatumbo attacks The National Liberation Army (ELN) and FARC dissidents exchange heavy fire across the Catatumbo region, Colombia, killing at least 80 people and injuring hundreds of others, with an unknown number of people also reportedly being kidnapped, after the ELN accused the FARC dissidents of killing civilians in the area. Thousands of people have fled their homes due to the fighting. The Colombian Army says that it has rescued dozens of people, while the government calls on the ELN to cease their attacks immediately. (CBS News) Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis The Gaza ceasefire agreement formally goes into effect, with the first hostages and prisoners freed as part of the deal. (CNN) Israel announces that its troops have recovered the body of staff sergeant Oron Shaul, who was captured and killed by Hamas in 2014. (The Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents The Washington Post reports that there is an "emerging consensus" among U.S. and European intelligence officials that maritime accidents, rather than Russian sabotage, was the cause of damage to Baltic seabed energy and communications lines. (Washington Post) 2025 California wildfires January 2025 Southern California wildfires Cal Fire reports that the Palisades Fire is more than 50% contained, while the Eaton Fire is more than 80% contained. (Forbes) Law and crime 2024 South Korean martial law crisis Arrest of Yoon Suk Yeol Yoon Suk Yeol becomes the first sitting president of South Korea to be formally arrested, following his declaration of martial law in December. (Yonhap) Following Yoon's arrest, pro-Yoon protesters raid the Seoul Western District Court, resulting in 41 injuries and property damage. (Yonhap) Capital punishment in Iran, Islam and blasphemy An Iranian court sentences singer Amir Tataloo to death on appeal after Tataloo was convicted of insulting the prophet Muhammad. (Al Arabiya) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war Three ministers of the Government of Israel belonging to the Otzma Yehudit party resign in protest of the approved Gaza ceasefire agreement. (The Times of Israel) Science and technology Restrictions on TikTok in the United States Social media platform TikTok temporarily suspends most of its services in the United States as the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act goes into effect. TikTok restores these services, but its app remains unavailable in U.S. markets on the App Store and Google Play. (People) (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Jeff Torborg

Article: Jeff Torborg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 01:23, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is well cited and has enough length for ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 01:41, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:57, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Kulanthai Shanmugalingaml

Article: Kulanthai Shanmugalingam (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Northbeat
Credits:

• Nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kanags (talk · give credit), Abishe (talk · give credit) and Editrite! (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: prominent historian, dramatist and playwright in Sri Lanka Abishe (talk) 09:50, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has enough length and citations to be placed on ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:42, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) Restrictions on TikTok in the United States

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Article: Restrictions on TikTok in the United States (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Social media platform TikTok (message pictured) suspends operations in the United States after its parent company ByteDance fails to sell the app to a U.S. based buyer. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Social media TikTok (message pictured) is officially shut down in the United States following ByteDance inability to comply with a government mandate to transfer ownership to a U.S. entity.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Social media platform TikTok is shut down in the United States (message pictured) following ByteDance's inability to comply with a government mandate to transfer ownership to a U.S. entity.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Social media platform TikTok is shut down in the United States (message pictured) in anticipation of legislation banning the app.
News source(s): TheVerge CNN Rappler Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Royiswariii (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ageofultron (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Also, nominated by QalasQalas Royiswariii Talk! 04:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Strong support lmao this is big coming from the country that promotes "free speach speech" 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:13, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Two things: first off, it is speech, not "speach", and secondly, how on Earth does that constructively add to the discussion on whether or not to add it to ITN? Seems merely like a way to ragebait people from the U.S... Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 12:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  my bad lol, I mean it is everywhere in the news so why not support that (and it might've been a small rage bait) 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 12:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Major country banning a major website, unprecedented in the United States. --FelineHerder (talk) 04:19, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you, @FelineHerder

  I think the Blurb was okay or Alt1 what do you think? Royiswariii Talk! 04:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @FelineHerder or it's okay to add the image since the tiktok logo is in Public domain? What do you think. Royiswariii Talk! 04:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Royiswariii I added an image of their American headquarters. --71.93.9.236 (talk) 04:24, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Okay, thank you! RoyiswariiiTalk! 04:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Support with modifications. Shutdown is a noun, so it should say "shut down in the United States". 675930s (talk) 05:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Fixed. DigitalIceAge (talk) 06:40, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose - This is literally just the ban coming into effect, which everyone knows. You should have made the court decision on that day ITN. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:21, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Also Trump may give leniency and suspend the enforcement for 90 days, so its not like it even matters. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Notable and widely covered QalasQalas (talk) 04:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Support the original altblurb II. Social media platform TikTok shuts down in the United States, as it doesn't lay the blame squarely on ByteDance. The ban isn't premised just on American legal compliance, but also on the wider geopolitics of platform ecosystems. 2600:1700:5890:69F0:3DB3:30C8:4F5F:E360 (talk) 04:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Support first blurb. Obviously notable Personisinsterest (talk) 04:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Alt2 actually. And I think the ban image fits better Personisinsterest (talk) 04:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose It was just a fucking Trump PR stunt Personisinsterest (talk) 19:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support original blurb Of course. ArionStar (talk) 04:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:34, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose as being too soon. Trump has said he will grant a 90-day extension to TikTok to get a buyer (but can only do that after he is in office), so it could easily be back on the 20th or 21st, making this a very short term thing. --Masem (t) 04:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Also, all current blurbs are wrong. Bytedance didn't do any shopping for a buyer, likely expecting a friendly ruling from SCOTUS, which ruled the bill was constitutional on Friday, and thus never came. If anything, the blurb should be along the lines of "After SCOTUS ruled Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act was constitutional, TikTok opts to shut down options in the United States." --Masem (t) 04:39, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

    Your reasoning here is why I would support this, but not yet. ByteDance has no intentions of selling it. China will not permit them to sell the algorithms, and the app/servers are basically useless to any potential buyer other than another major social media company if they don't come with the algorithms to drive profit/content/engagement. Since all the potential social media outlets have a competitor form of short video already... unless Trump's going to buy it and incorporate it into Truth Social, it's extremely unlikely that a sale will ever occur. And TikTok knows this - they'd rather keep it offline and lobby for the law to be repealed than bring it back for 90 days and then go through this again in 90 days. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 04:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

    Let's put it this way - TikTok's own message to users say they expect this to be temporary (see [7]), and that's likely why we'll see something that gives more clarity to the situation on the 20th/21st when Trump can do something (and has stated intentions to do this). Hence now is too since we know we'll have a change in the situation in the next few days, which if this brings TikTok back, would have the same effect as an extended network outage, which we shouldn't be posting.
    I also have a feeling that there are some that see this as a first amendment/free speech thing, making it seem like a big deal, but SCOTUS specifically ignored anything along those lines and focused on the national security complexities of a Chinese owner with data on 170 million Americans, justifying that that company should not be doing business in the US. — Masem (t) 04:56, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

    I'm not a american citizen but I do believe that Trump will intervene on ban of TikTok, I think it's a little bit long process to back the TikTok and move the date of ban. But, we will see on January 20th. Royiswariii Talk! 05:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

    I have no problem waiting until the inauguration or at least until we get more mumbling from the Trump circle about their plans. Ultimately, this may result in a complicated situation - the law states that the ban can be delayed once for up to 90 days if the following (per our article on the law): a path to a qualified divestiture has been identified, "significant" progress has been made to executing the divestiture, and legally binding agreements for facilitating the divestiture are in place. There is no path that has been identified (China will block all paths), there has not been any progress made other than some blabbing on social media, and there are no legally binding agreements in place. So technically, if Trump offers an extension.. he himself is violating the provisions of the law as passed by Congress.

    Hence why I think TikTok may not be saying "temporary" hoping for a 90 day extension (just to repeat in 3 months), but saying that because they believe they can get Congress to repeal the law. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:05, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

    Well, for example, one company has submitted a merge request which would appear to sufficiently dilute the foreign control which would be more appealing to China [8]. Also, fwiw, the 90-day extension in the law is a one-shot deal, they cannot keep getting another new 90 day extension (hence why the terms of granting it are based on significant progress towards divestment). Masem (t) 05:11, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

    I personally think that a merge where ByteDance retains any access or ownership does not meet the spirit of "qualified divestiture" under the law... And what I meant by "repeat in 3 months" is repeat shutting down... but I feel I'm getting into FORUM now so I'll end it with I think we agree - let's wait until at least the daytime Sunday and then depending on what news comes out it can be considered for posting. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait to see what news comes out throughout the day Sunday US time, in case there is a magical hail mary pass that's been in the works behind the scenes that comes out of the woodworks and gets this extended or, ultimately, rendered moot by a "qualified divestiture". -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 05:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Alt blurb 3; it's worth mentioning the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 05:38, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Should this image be used instead of the current skinny image? AlphaBeta135talk 05:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @AlphaBeta135, I think yeah 'cause it's readable than the first one. Royiswariii Talk! 05:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Changed. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 06:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

TikTok bans

Wikipedia bans

• Support ALT3. It is better to just cite the undisputed legislative reason why the app is banned instead of singularly assigning failure or claiming there was an inability to comply. This is major news, regardless of what happens after Trump comes into office. If something happens, that can be revisited and the blurb edited, and even then the talk seems to be about a final decision in 90 or so days, which is plenty of time between this blurb and a hypothetical further blurb. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 06:16, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per SimpleSubCubicGraph Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 06:50, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Wait - agree with Masem, let's wait and see what happens. Blythwood (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment For those saying "it's too soon" or "it'll be overturned quickly", the important thing is that it's in the news now. We posted the South Korean martial law declaration and it had already been rescinded by the time it was on the front page. Whether it's overturned or not, this is still a notable news event. PolarManne (talk) 08:06, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @PolarManne, I agree but I respect their opinion. If TikTok was lift the ban by the new U.S. President Donald Trump, then, just nominate it. Royiswariii Talk! 09:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  A coup of a major gov't, even if it was undone within hours, is far far more encyclopedic and newsworthy than an app that may be shuttered for only a few days. — Masem (t) 12:38, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose TikTok is already banned in various places – see map. And other software and sites are banned too – see map for Wikipedia. So, this particular ban in this particular place is not that special. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  We're talking about the law of banning of TikTok on United States or U.S.A., The notable news now is the shutting down of TikTok on U.S.. As per PolarManne comment, the important thing is what it is in the news now and if it's notable, the TikTok ban on U.S. is notable at all 'cause it's have major impact on the whole U.S., if the upcoming U.S President Donald Trump intervene and lift the ban and give the extension for ByteDance, then we can nominate a another separate news on this. Royiswariii Talk! 09:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  It doesn't seem that this will have much impact because there are lots of equivalents on other platforms. See Why is its disappearance being met with a shrug? Andrew🐉(talk) 12:09, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Have you been on social media recently? Personisinsterest (talk) 12:53, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  the article Kevin Roose of The New York Times is a opinion article. I respected the opinions of the journalist about the ban of TikTok, In some people who don't use or not really use of TikTok, not have a impact. According to NBC, the user of TikTok on U.S. is 170 Million users around the U.S., so, this news was notable and have a huge impact to U.S.A users. Royiswariii Talk! 12:59, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Facebook has over 3 billion users and so its recent policy changes which were in the news have a bigger impact, for example. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Strong support One of the most cited in the news about a social media platform ban in any country. 170 million people got banned from the app. If this isn't posted, nothing should be posted. MAL MALDIVE (talk) 10:35, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - obvious Americocentrism. India has banned TikTok since June 29, 2020 and that wasn't even nominated for ITN, let alone a successful one. The ban could very well be reversed or an extension granted by the incoming Trump administration; such an event would render this nomination redundant. 2A02:C7C:2DCE:1F00:5DA5:1062:6319:56FF (talk) 11:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:05, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  • Oppose Another day, another ban. The US has banned plenty of other apps and companies from doing business. Just another drop in the bucket.

  Noah, BSBA^Talk 13:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  How many of those were used by 170 million Americans? Khuft (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Not banned yet, voluntary action by Bytedance. And generally oppose as well: not the first thing on the internet to be banned by the US government. If Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act has an impact beyond this single app, may reconsider. Gotitbro (talk) 14:30, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  I'm still on oppose, but a few corrections: They had to have divested by today (the 19th) or otherwise the apps stores would be required to remove the app. That said, Bytedance took a more nuclear option of shutting down completely in the US (in addition to app store removal), which has affected a few more apps that fall under the ByteDance umbrella (eg like Marvel Snap). Neither of those points still make this an appropriate ITN item since we know the situation could easily change in the next two days. Also, PAFACA is written to apply to other apps if they are found to be controlled by an hostile foreign country, but they would have 180-270 days from that determination to divest or pull from stores; ByteDance/TikTok were specifically called out in the bill and with the 19th deadline, but its not intended to end with those. Masem (t) 14:39, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Gotitbro Lemon8 and CapCut are also banned at the same time as TikTok, though both apps are also owned by Bytedance. AlphaBeta135talk 14:58, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  From the above replies I again gather that this does not go beyond Bytedance. Considering that act itself was introduced from the get go as the "TikTok ban bill", I am still waiting to see any impact beyond this or the company that owns it. Gotitbro (talk) 15:05, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as per above Sharrdx (talk) 14:39, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Wait or Strong oppose As mentioned above by other editors, it's just another app blocked by the US. When India banned Tiktok, the app lost about 200 million active users, which as mentioned by the IP, wasn't even nominated. And if Trump is going to come around and reverse the ban, it would be worthless to get it posted. If we are going to post this, I support a date after Trump's coming into office, such as 20th or 21st TNM101 (chat) 14:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem TheHiddenCity (talk) 15:50, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support The US government banning a Chinese-owned app used by 170 million American users is clearly notable, for all the reasons already mentioned, as well as for its geopolitical implications. These latter are why this ban is making more waves than when India banned the app. Would prefer AltBlurb III: Bytedance wasn't unable to comply - it didn't want to so far. Alternative would be to replace "inability to comply" by "failure to comply". Khuft (talk) 15:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Changing my vote to Oppose given the latest developments. Khuft (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• As another reason to wait, Trump has now confirmed that he will EO the 90-day extension on Monday or Tuesday to allow TikTok to find a buyer [9], so this is going to be a temporary outage. Masem (t) 16:11, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support. Millions of users will be lost and will potentionally migrate to other platforms such as Red Note and YouTube Shorts. JordanJa🎮es92🐱9 16:49, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree with adding information about the TikTok ban to the main page. This is notable and it could teach readers about it. NicePrettyFlower (talk) 17:05, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Wait to see if Trump follows through with an extension or not. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• And now TikTok is in the process of restoring service in the US, making this ITN useless. [10]. --Masem (t) 17:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose The ban was just lifted (at least on the app), which kind of ruins the whole point of this nomination. If it gets shut down again maybe I'll reconsider my vote. Hungry403 (talk) 18:08, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Suggest snow close Ban lifted. 85.166.4.191 (talk) 18:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose events have now overtaken this. Support close. Nfitz (talk) 18:45, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose The ban has been lifted, with indications that it will be made permanent on Monday. The app was only unavailable for hours, meh. RachelTensions (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Wait TikTok is still banned in the two major mobile app stores (Google Play and Apple App Store) [11]. I think the blurb could focus on that instead of "shutting down" or "suspending operations". Anyways, there's no rush to see if a deadline extension will be granted by the incoming presidential administration. ^Falling_Gravity 19:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support ALT3. This is a noteworthy and widely covered story now. It is very much “in the news” now so I don’t understand the calls to wait. The wording in ALT3 is most neutral and accurate. Highlighting ByteDance’s “failure” or “inability” is at best POV spin that places undue weight on one interpretation and I would argue it is misleading and inaccurate. Regardless, the article itself is the place for readers to find the full explanation and for editors to determine the right way to provide it.--MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 19:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Situation is too fluid and confusing to be a good ITN. Lets just leave this one for news networks... Tradedia^talk 20:33, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Suggest snow close By my count, there are 14 support votes, 17 oppose votes, and 4 wait votes. Consensus to post is unlikely to develop. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

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Storming of South Korean court

Article: 2025 Seoul Western District Court riot (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Supporters of South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol raid the Seoul Western District Court (court pictured), resulting of 51 police officers injured and dozens of people detained. (Post)
News source(s): Chosun Blitz The Korea Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 103.111.100.82 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This is the first time in South Korean constitutional history that a court was attacked by people. 103.111.100.82 (talk) 07:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Apart from the WP:SEAOFBLUE violation and the missing article, we've had too much coverage for that president. Might as well list it as an ongoing event 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - While I'd be happy with posting another major development in this story, this isn't it. This is a footnote in the developing story. GenevieveDEon (talk) 09:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 18

Portal:Current events/2025 January 18

January 18, 2025 (2025-01-18) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Kryvyi Rih strikes Four people are killed and 14 others are injured in a Russian ballistic missile strike on Kryvyi Rih, Ukraine, according to the Governor of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Serhiy Lysak. (Euronews) Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure At least four people are killed in Russian missile and drone attacks on Kyiv, Ukraine. (Al Jazeera) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israel–Hamas war The Government of Israel approves the proposed Gaza ceasefire agreement, which had previously been approved by the Security Cabinet of Israel. (CNN) A Palestinian man from Tulkarm in the West Bank stabs and seriously injures a man in central Tel Aviv after illegally entering Israel. An armed civilian subsequently shoots and kills the perpetrator. (The Times of Israel) 2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran Two judges are killed and a third judge and a bodyguard are injured in a mass shooting at the Supreme Court of Iran in Tehran, Iran. The perpetrator subsequently kills himself. (DW) Ghanian soldiers open fire on illegal miners at a gold mine in Ashanti Region, killing seven people. Ghanian president John Mahama calls for an investigation into the incident. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2025 Suleja fuel tanker explosion At least 86 people are killed and several others are injured when a fuel tanker overturns on a highway in Suleja, Niger State, Nigeria, and later explodes when people gather to collect the spilled fuel. (Vanguard) (The Straits Times) Ten people are injured, including two seriously, when a chairlift collapses at the Astún ski resort in Aragon, Spain. (BBC News) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Azerbaijan's Ministry of Healthcare reports the country's first case of mpox in a 22-year-old patient who had recently travelled abroad. (Reuters) Law and crime Internet censorship in the United States Apple and Google remove apps by the Chinese company ByteDance, including TikTok, Lemon8, and CapCut, from their app stores in the United States to comply with the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act. (Reuters) (CNBC) Politics and elections Israel–Hamas war protests Israel–Hamas war protests in the United Kingdom More than 70 people are arrested at a pro-Palestine protest in London, England, United Kingdom for violating protest regulations. (BBC News) Protests against Donald Trump In Washington, D.C., the Women's March holds a protest rebranded as the People's March against U.S. President-elect Donald Trump ahead of his inauguration on Monday. Women's March protests are also held in several cities in the United Kingdom. (Reuters) (WRC-TV) (BBC News)

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(Posted) RD: Claire van Kampen

Article: Claire van Kampen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Moscow Mule (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Woman composer at her famous husband's side for the Royal Shakespeare Company, who also ventured into writing a play that proved successful in England and on Broadway. - NYT obit, which would have more detail if someone has the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Theatre section is entirely unsourced. Please add references. Support Article now has enough citations and quality to be on the Main Page. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 16:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Done. Moscow Mule (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Please check, Fakescientist8000

• Support Theatre section is sourced now. Its a C class article with no problems. Grimes2 (talk) 15:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 19:25, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) 2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran

Article: 2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Two Sharia judges are assassinated and two other people are injured in a mass shooting at the Supreme Court of Iran (pictured) in capital Tehran. (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Relevant event in the judicial history of the country. ArionStar (talk) 00:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support. Two judges known for being linked to a mass execution assassinated in a rare attack at a Supreme Court.Bloxzge 025 (talk • contribs)
• Oppose on Quality. Article is exceptionally thin, and most of the body is not directly about the shooting. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Agreed. It's notable but needs more information. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 02:23, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  I just did a improvement. ArionStar (talk) 03:34, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Looking better, thanks. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 04:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @DarkSide830: quality is decent now. ArionStar (talk) 04:57, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - Two top Iranian judges being killed is far more important than the tiktok ban. Another case of northerncentrism. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFF. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose solely on article quality. If some meat can be added, I would support. The assassination of two supreme court judges almost anywhere is going to merit a blurb here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem:  Done. ArionStar (talk) 06:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Support Article is now adequate for posting. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:12, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support This is important in the context of all what is happening in the middle east, including the Iran-Israel proxy war. Also, the quality/size of the article seems ok now. Tradedia^talk 07:09, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  We did a good work in the article. ArionStar (talk) 14:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support per Ad Orientem. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support notability but oppose on quality. Firstly the background section is orange-tagged so unmarking as ready. The article is very short and lacking a lot of background detail that would inform the reader of the basic facts. Also the fatalities section is unusual; surely the two judges warrant articles of their own given their position? Abcmaxx (talk) 16:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  I can help improve it. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 00:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support – if something like that happened in the US, it would be added in a heartbeat. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 20:20, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability per Bloxzge 025 and Tradedia. As for article quality, I still support - aside from the background section, I think the article is short but sufficient. With this being said, the currently background section should probably just be removed altogether until it is more complete/adequate. I do not think a background section is strictly necessary to meet the bare bones minimum necessary for the article, though. Flip^andFlopped ツ 20:31, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:28, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephen: Why not the full proposed blurb? ArionStar (talk) 02:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Stephen, the cited article[12] doesn't mention "Sharia" anywhere, let alone "Sharia judges". I can't find anything on google for a single source that calls them "sharia judges"[13]. This looks like a WP:V violation.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

The article title on this event also uses this term 2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran, so if this is OR, the article title also needs to be changed. Natg 19 (talk) 19:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Done (both) by Amakuru 20:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC). Natg 19 (talk) 22:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

2025 Suleja fuel tanker explosion

Article: 2025 Suleja fuel tanker explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A fuel tanker explosion near Suleja, Niger state, Nigeria, kills at least 98 people and injures 69 others. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: High number of deaths. ArionStar (talk) 18:59, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support on notability, oppose on quality. A large fuel tanker explosion with a big death toll, but the article needs improvement. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - 125 victims in total is alone enough for ITN. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 05:26, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose solely on article quality. We need a bit more meat on this article before it can be posted. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Not every disaster is going to have sufficient coverage to make for a quality article for ITN, and generally a recognizition that WP is not a newspaper, we should not be rushing to create event articles after any type of disaster until there's some certainty that it will have the longevity for notability .--Masem (t) 14:51, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Reluctant oppose article is too short and there's not much indication of wider notability beyond the sheer number of deaths. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:24, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Falls short in terms of quality and encyclopedic value. Tradedia^talk 20:11, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Almost 100 deaths… ArionStar (talk) 22:34, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Bloxzge 025, Ad Orientem, @The Kip, @Tradedia: look at this now! ArionStar (talk) 00:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  We are getting close. One cn tag. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  A tank truck destroyed 20 shops? No way! ArionStar (talk) 01:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  Yes, it's possible. ArionStar (talk) 02:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Info The article is in good shape now. ArionStar (talk) 02:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• The lead contains a lot of information that is missing from the body. Not ready. Schwede66 17:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

  I disagree; see Explosion and Victims section. ArionStar (talk) 17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Russell Marshall

Article: Russell Marshall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stuff.co.nz, Radio New Zealand
Credits:

• Nominated by Kiwichris (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article covers all notable events in his life and career, well sourced. Kiwichris (talk) 08:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article has enough sourcing and length to qualify for ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:05, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 17

Portal:Current events/2025 January 17

January 17, 2025 (2025-01-17) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war The Security Cabinet of Israel approves the proposed Gaza ceasefire agreement, which is expected to take effect on Sunday. (The Guardian) Naxalite–Maoist insurgency Twelve Naxalites are killed in a police raid in Bijapur, Chhattisgarh, India. (Al Jazeera) Colombian conflict Nine people are killed during a shootout between Gulf Cartel gunmen and the National Liberation Army (ELN) in Montelibano, Córdoba Department, Colombia. (Barron's) Three people are killed and seven others are injured in clashes with security forces in Juba and Aweil, South Sudan, with three Sudanese-owned houses set on fire in Aweil. This comes after videos emerged allegedly showing Sudanese soldiers killing South Sudanese civilians in Wad Madani, Sudan. (BBC News) Business and economy British oil and gas company BP announces that it will lay off 4,700 employees and 3,000 contractors globally to reduce costs. (AP) Health and environment The Zimbabwean Ministry of Health reports that a new cholera outbreak that started in December 2024 has reached eight districts and infected nearly 300 people, causing one death. (DW) International relations 2024 United States telecommunications hack The U.S. Treasury Department sanctions a cybersecurity company and hacker, both with ties to China's Ministry of State Security, for their alleged roles in hacking American telecommunications companies. (Reuters) Iran–Russia relations Iranian president Masoud Pezeshkian and Russian president Vladimir Putin sign the Iranian–Russian Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. The 20-year deal will see cooperation between the two countries in multiple areas, including nuclear energy, counterterrorism, and environmental issues. (Middle East Eye) Law and crime TikTok v. Garland The United States Supreme Court upholds a law that could ban TikTok in the United States on January 19 unless the social media platform is sold by its Chinese parent company ByteDance. (AP) A judge in Bolivia orders the arrest of former Bolivian President Evo Morales on statutory rape charges. (The Guardian) Brazilian police raid a ranch in Ponta Grossa, South Region, Brazil, in an operation to dismantle a gang planning large-scale bank heists, killing six suspects and seizing weapons, including a .50-caliber machine gun and explosives. (AP) Politics and elections Colombian conflict Colombian President Gustavo Petro suspends dialogue with the National Liberation Army following accusations of war crimes against the group. (Reuters) Second inauguration of Donald Trump U.S. President-elect Donald Trump announces that his upcoming second inauguration will be held indoors at the United States Capitol rotunda due to cold temperatures forecasts. Trump also announces that the inaugural parade will be held indoors at Capital One Arena in Washington D.C. (Reuters) Didier Guillaume, the head of government of Monaco, dies suddenly at the age of 65. Isabelle Berro-Lefèvre is appointed acting Minister of State by Prince Albert II. (Monaco Tribune) Science and technology Censorship of TikTok TikTok warns that it could "go dark" on Sunday without assistance from outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden and his administration. (Politico)

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(Posted RD) Didier Guillaume

Article: Didier Guillaume (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Didier Guillaume, the Minister of State of Monaco, dies, and Isabelle Berro-Amadeï is appointed as the acting Minister of State (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde Sarajevo Times Monaco Tribune
Credits:

• Nominated by TNM101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit), GoodDay (talk · give credit) and Fakescientist8000 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Minister of State of Monaco, ITNR since he was the head of government TNM101 (chat) 17:36, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

• Is this ITNR? The Prince of Monoco is the one listed at List of current heads of state and government that administerss the gov't, not the minister. --Masem (t) 17:51, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

• @Masem: It is not, and I’ve removed the ITNR tag. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:01, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Per Minister of State (Monaco), The Prime Minister of Monaco... is the head of government of Monaco and the officeholder is responsible for directing the work of the government and in charge of foreign relations... also presides... over the Council of Government, directs the executive services and commands the police and military. They're also listed in the second column at the link you linked to. The ITNR listing says the following: Changes, reelections or reappointments in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government, in those countries which qualify under the criteria above, as listed at List of current heads of state and government except when that change was already posted as part of a general election.

Ultimately, I'm not really miffed either way, but this does bring up a quirky situation. In most other monarchies around the world, the monarch is little more than a figurehead by this point, but is usually still notable enough on their own to post on ITN with a blurb. According to Monarchy of Monaco, only Lichtenstein and the Vatican still have their monarchs playing an active role in politics. It's a weird situation - if a country still has an "active" monarchy, but that monarch delegates virtually all of their tasks to a Prime Minister or similar role, do we count both for ITNR? Personally, I don't see how we can justify not treating both as eligible, but in any case I would argue that head of government is more close to the phrasing of ITNR of "administers the executive".

And ultimately, the results of general elections are already able to be posted, so the only thing that saying Death or replacement (other than by election) of an officeholder listed on the page List of current heads of state and government. That would only add, what, maybe a dozen or two "eligible people" to the mix, not including those who are almost certainly going to qualify for ITN blurb on their own (ex: Charles III, and some other monarchs). Regardless, better discussion for another page to clarify. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 18:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Support - Any head of state dying is notable enough, no matter how small the country is. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 18:31, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

The head of state of Monaco is the prince. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Somewhat medium support. Without even considering who on that list of heads of state/government is eligible for ITNR, I think this office is at least borderline on satisfying "the office which administers the executive", per our article on the office. While the Prince still holds ultimate authority, our article on the monarchy states Executive power is retained by the monarch, who has veto power over all legislation proposed by the National Council. The minister of state and the Government Council are directly responsible to the Prince for the administration of the principality (citations omitted). Probably need a discussion at the appropriate venue to clarify further the criteria, which is currently able to be interpreted in... less than exact ways. I'll leave it to others to discuss quality of the affected articles, but I don't notice any major concerns at this point. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 18:14, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more I am reconsidering a full on support, though. From my reading of it, she was made the acting Minister because of the incapacitation (hospitalization) of the prior Minister who was duly appointed. There is no guarantee she is appointed the Minister by the Prince - so I could support a RD posting for the Minister now, and a potential blurb if/when the new Minister (whether her or someone else) is appointed by the Prince. Sometimes, I think the world just specifically tries to make things more complex/complicated than they truly need to be, just to see Wikipedia disagree. </joke> -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 18:18, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support dies > passes away. ArionStar (talk) 18:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Support blurb despite Monaco being a small country, the head of government dying while in office is still relevant. Scuba 20:26, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

RD Only - Good candidate for RD, but Monaco has a population of less than 40,000. 1779Days (talk) 20:41, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

What does Monaco's population have to do with anything? It's still a country nevertheless. Aydoh8^[contribs] 13:31, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• RD only Monaco has a special status, but on the ground, it is just like any other French city. So Didier Guillaume is more like a random mayor. Tradedia^talk 22:15, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

  Monaco is a sovereign state, not a French city. RachelTensions (talk) 03:39, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support death of head of government should be the only acceptable RD blurbs IMO This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:39, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Whatever happens, the blurb needs to be updated to be "dies" instead of "passes away". WP:PASSEDAWAY. RachelTensions (talk) 03:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

   Done TNM101 (chat) 04:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Not Ready for the usual reason. Support blurb in principle, but article quality for a head of government does not wow me. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:38, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  Support blurb Article appears quality now to be adequate for posting. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support given the arguments of some above, though it still seems the MoS is mostly at the mercy of the Prince rather than a fully autonomous actor. The Kip ^(contribs) 17:27, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Four cn tags. Once fixed, Support blurb a change in leadership along with the death of an incumbent head of state is blurb worthy, although per The Kip in terms of MoS being an actual head of state. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:48, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Ad Orientem and @TDKR Chicago 101, please double check the quality of the article. I have given previously uncited statements sourcing, and this article should be good to go now. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 11:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment A blurb would now be stale, as the oldest blurb (Iranian judges assassination) is newer than this. However, discussion for RD inclusion can continue. The Kip ^(contribs) 21:08, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support - It's newsworthy. GoodDay (talk) 22:35, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Denis Law

Article: Denis Law (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Jmorrison230582 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Record goalscorer for Manchester United and the Scotland national team, Ballon d'Or winner (1964). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:24, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb, the only Scottish football player to win Ballon D'Or, the last surviving member of Manchester United European Cup winning team. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Law wasn't in the United team for the 1968 European Cup final, because he was injured. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Let’s be honest, if Bobby Charlton wasn’t notable enough for a blurb, Denis Law is certainly not. He’s trailing Charlton in virtually every category. Also, as far as I know, Wayne Rooney is Manchester United’s record goalscorer.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  Correct, Law is Manchester United's 3rd highest goalscorer (Charlton is 2nd). Black Kite (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb No indication of being a great figure. Winning the Ballon D'Or may lead to that but there's nothing to discuss legacy or impact on the game, and a sport's MPV award for a year is not sufficient for this. Support RD, I think there's one loose CN on the awards but nothing else stands out being a problem. --Masem (t) 23:33, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Bobby Charlton probably should have been blurbed, but I don't believe Law rises to his level, so on that basis I will have to oppose. Black Kite (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb per User:BilboBeggins SimplyLouis27 (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, oppose support RD We didn't even blurb Johan Cruyff. Also, in terms of quality, there is a message error at the end of the page: "Cite error: There are ref group=note tags on this page, but the references will not show without a template (see the help page)." it is ok. Tradedia^talk 02:39, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

  That was broken by this recent edit. I've fixed it. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:19, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Elderly person dying after a long disease, over 50 years since they were an active footballer. Article is in fine-enough shape for an RD. –DMartin 08:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment There were 215,000 views on the news which seems typical of someone who was a household name in the UK but unknown in the US. The high readership shows that readers are not finding it difficult to find the article. Running this in the RD ticker will make little difference. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
• I nominated this for RD. I'm not sure why somebody added blurb to the nomination. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joan Plowright

Article: Joan Plowright (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Wizzito (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 wizzito | say hello! 14:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Not ready. It'd be nice to see her there, but a slew of her acting credits aren't referenced. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Like Denis Law, she was another famous name in her day and so there were 283,000 views on the news. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Far too many CN tags to be considered eligible quality for ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment CNs down to four: TV shows from the 50s and 70s (for which there are sources, but not WP:RS). Moscow Mule (talk) 01:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support There are only a handful of CN Tags left within her acting credits. If they are not resolved and the passing admin reviewing this deems them unacceptable, it would be better to remove those entries from her filmography list (I could not find cites for them) and then post to RD. It is an otherwise quality article on a very noteworthy person. Flip^andFlopped ツ 01:30, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:28, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

January 16

Portal:Current events/2025 January 16

January 16, 2025 (2025-01-16) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli bombing of the Gaza Strip Israeli airstrikes kill at least 82 people across the Gaza Strip, including 30 in Gaza City, hours after the announcement of a ceasefire agreement. (Al Jazeera) Three-phase Israel–Hamas war ceasefire proposal The Israeli and Hamas negotiating teams sign the hostage release and ceasefire deal in Doha, Qatar. (The Times of Israel) Somali Civil War, War against the Islamic State Islamic State insurgency in Puntland The Puntland Security Force claims to have captured a training facility used by ISIL militants, with over forty ISIL fighters killed following heavy fighting. (The Eastleigh Voice) Thousands of families are displaced as the military campaign intensifies, forcing locals to flee their homes in Bari region of Puntland, Somalia. (Idil News) (Horn Observer) Red Sea crisis The leader of the Houthis Abdul-Malik al-Houthi announces that the group will monitor the implementation of the Israel–Hamas ceasefire agreement and continue its attacks on vessels and on Israel if the ceasefire is breached. (Middle East Monitor) Sudanese civil war The U.S. Treasury Department sanctions the head of the Sudanese Armed Forces Abdel Fattah al-Burhan for "destabilizing Sudan and undermining the goal of a democratic transition" to a civilian-led government. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents 2025 California wildfires January 2025 Southern California wildfires It is reported that the Eaton Fire, which has burned over 14,000 acres and has killed 17 people, is 65% contained. (CBS News) Stilfontein mine deaths The bodies of nine illegal miners trapped inside a gold mine in Stilfontein, South Africa, are recovered by police. (CTV News) Two deminers are killed in an explosion while attempting to remove a Cambodian Civil War-era anti-tank mine from a rice field in Oddar Meanchey province, Cambodia. (AP) International relations Ukraine–United Kingdom relations British Prime Minister Keir Starmer visits Kyiv, Ukraine, to sign a 100-year agreement with Ukraine that will formalize British economic and military support for Ukraine. (Sky News) (BBC News) Law and crime Capital punishment in Taiwan Taiwan carries out its first execution in five years on a man who was convicted of the 2013 murder of his former girlfriend and her mother. (Yahoo! News) Spišská Stará Ves school stabbing Two women are killed and a third is injured in a mass stabbing at a school in Spišská Stará Ves, Slovakia. The perpetrator is arrested. (BBC News) (Devdiscourse) Two homeless people are killed and two others are injured in a mass stabbing attack in Miami, Florida, United States. A 30-year-old suspect is arrested. (NBC News) The Government of Cuba releases dissident and human rights activist José Daniel Ferrer from jail. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2021–present Bulgarian political crisis The Parliament of Bulgaria approves a coalition government consisting of the GERB-SDS, BSP – United Left, and There is Such a People parties, with GERB's Rosen Zhelyazkov becoming Prime Minister. (Euronews) 2024 French political crisis The government of French Prime Minister François Bayrou survives a no-confidence motion by the opposition New Popular Front electoral alliance. (Euronews) 2025 Vanuatuan general election Citizens of Vanuatu vote for the 52 members of Parliament. (RNZ) Science and technology 2025 in spaceflight Blue Origin launches its New Glenn rocket for the first time from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida, United States. The rocket's second stage, carrying a prototype Blue Ring spacecraft, successfully reaches a geocentric orbit, but its reusable first stage is lost during landing. (CNN) The twin satellites SDX01 and SDX02 of the SpaDeX mission, launched in December by the Indian Space Research Organisation, successfully conduct India's first spacecraft docking, with India becoming the fourth country to successfully dock a spacecraft after the United States, Russia, and China. (BBC News) SpaceX launches its seventh test flight of the Starship launch vehicle, with an improved second stage, at Starbase in Texas, United States. The first stage is successfully caught by the launch tower but the second stage breaks up shortly before engine shutdown. (CNBC) Nintendo officially reveals the Nintendo Switch 2 video game console, the successor to the Nintendo Switch. (Nintendo) Sports 2025 in sumo Shortly after withdrawing from the January 2025 Grand Sumo Tournament due to injuries, the 73rd yokozuna Terunofuji Haruo announces his retirement. If no other wrestler is promoted this tournament, his retirement leaves sumo without a yokozuna for the first time since 1993. Terunofuji also announced his intention to remain in the Japan Sumo Association as an oyakata. (Kyodo News) (Nikkan Sports)

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(Posted) RD: Hans Dobida

Article: Hans Dobida (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [14][15]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Flibirigit (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Copyedit and updates complete. I feel it is ready for the main page. Flibirigit (talk) 15:22, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Referenced, adequate depth of coverage. Spencer^T•C 06:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

(Removed) California fires to ongoing

Article: January 2025 Southern California wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Stephen (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I've added fires to ongoing as they were pushed off by David Lynch. Discuss whether that's appropriate below. Stephen 22:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Return, pull Chad - Fires still ongoing(not fully contained). Chad attack seems to have gotten one burst of coverage a week ago and barely any after that. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 23:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

  Do you understand that the fires have been moved to the ongoing section? Stephen 23:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support/concur appropriate addition. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment Could the wildfires be moved to Ongoing? --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:07, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@MtPenguinMonster they already have. The Kip ^(contribs) 00:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose the fires may be ongoing but the rate of destruction has significantly flattened out as well as deaths. There may be potential fir a damaging flare up but we're on the backend of that story, which doesn't make it great for the ongoing line, particularly given what else is in ongoing. Masem (t) 00:33, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Pull from ongoing No fire weather days in the forecast for southern California, and everything that would be burned has been. Containment takes a while, but fires burn through their fuel, and most of these fire's fuel is gone, and you can expect very little updates from here except for records to be broken and various celebrities revealing their homes have / have not been destroyed by the fires. Departure– (talk) 00:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per Masem. Banedon (talk) 01:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Pull/Support. I'm favorable to the fires still being in Ongoing, but, there is nowhere near a consensus for such placement as of right now. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. This item pales in comparaison with the other Ongoing items in terms of duration and magnitude of death toll. Tradedia^talk 03:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Pull If you didn't like the fire pushed off by David Lynch, then you should have added South Korean Crisis to ongoing, pull Yoon's arrest and add the fire back. The fire is not significant enough to be ongoing. Didgogns (talk) 04:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  It has nothing to do with whether I like or dislike anything. If I added anything to ongoing I'd still have the courtesy of asking here. You need to learn a little more about how ITN works. Stephen 04:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  ITN or not, the WP:SUPERVOTE they suggested wouldn't fly very well. —Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Removed Stephen 04:19, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Connection Lynch died from breathing difficulty after being evacuated from his home on Mulholland Drive. So, the fire might be mentioned in his blurb. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  I think his importance/great figure-ness aspect, and that he was already of old age, far outweighs the means of his death, and that detail would hurt the concisness of the blurb. (Whereas, to use the case of Kobe Bryant's death in the helicopter crash, that death was completely unexpected and so both aspects (the crash and his status as an NBA player) likely weighed equally. Masem (t) 14:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  The fires are still generating significant traffic but the title of the article is not obvious and there's a proposal to change it again. So, ITN should help navigation per its primary purpose. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:56, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

(Closed) New Glenn launch

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: New Glenn (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket successfully reaches orbit on its inaugural launch. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by 109.166.233.124 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Surprised it hasn't been nominated since I think inaugural launches of notable rockets are ITNR. Notable that it is the first methalox rocket to reach orbit (SpaceX's bigger Starship has only technically done sub-orbital flights), and its payload capacity is only passed by the few Super heavy-lift launch vehicles. 109.166.233.124 (talk) 19:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@109.166.233.124 Please create a correctly formatted nomination, and if possible an account. SpectralIon 19:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@SpectralIon: I took care of fixing the nom. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@The Kip Alright, then I would say Support on Notability since this is the first launch of an advanced rocket, and it reached orbit as well. --SpectralIon 19:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support in principle, weak support on quality. This rocket actually worked and its (test) payload was successfully deployed into orbit. The booster was lost on descent, but that's a failure of reusability not of the launch. However, there's only 80 words of update in the article. Don't we normally have a separate article for notable launches, rather than just a section in the article about the rocket? Technically this does meet our minimum requirements, but I would prefer to see more details in the article and fixed cn tags. Modest Genius ^talk 19:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

  Nitpick, but there was no payload deployment. The payload stayed attached to the upper stage. Ergzay (talk) 02:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  Exactly as planned. Modest Genius ^talk 14:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment and support on notability. There isn't even a separate article on the flight/ test itself (I know I know, I could have created it myself, but I'm feeling kinda discouraged from everything this week). The notability is there though. --Ouro (blah blah) 19:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support per above. Quality is adequate The Kip ^(contribs) 19:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment should be noted that the first stage failed to land on its drone ship and was lost during descent, but other than that soft support as it is an inaugural launch, but the article needs some work. Scuba 19:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - a huge advance given how large this rocket is, and particularly the payload volume. Of particular note with this (first) launch is that it is orbital - something that Starship is yet to achieve. Only SLS can currently put a larger payload into orbit.(Falcon Heavy is relatively similar on mass, but is severely constrained on payload volume in comparison. Nfitz (talk) 21:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support - Major development in spaceflight. Competitor of Starship & SLS. Successful orbital insertion, RIP stage 1. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 22:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose - Not a major development in spaceflight. Not a competitor to Starship or SLS either in size or capability. The rocket is a heavy launcher not a super heavy launcher. There are already partially reusable rockets. This is another partially reusable rocket, but it didn't succeed its landing so its not partially reusable yet. Also there's no page dedicated to the launch. Also the nominator's comments are factually incorrect. ULA's Vulcan rocket already reached orbit and that is also a methalox rocket. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ergzay (talk • contribs)

It's a huge development, User:Ergzay. How many Starship ITNs have been posted, and the damn thing hasn't even achieved orbit yet. And why claim it's not a competitor to Starship and SLS? The turnaround on an SLS launch, even years from now, is measured in years. New Glenn is measured in weeks, with several more launches scheduled this year - the next one to the moon. And with the massive fairing size, and the lack of obstructions in the fairing compared to Starship, this can launch stuff that Starship can't. Not to mention Starship hasn't actually achieved orbit yet - so yes, this is ahead of Starship. Nfitz (talk) 17:38, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

None of those Starship ITN requests have been actually posted because of people lacking technical understanding of the subject. First of all Starship hasn't been trying to achieve orbit in any of those tests yet. They've been trying to achieve both stage reusability. It's also the largest rocket in history, by a large margin.

Perhaps I'm overreaching with claiming its not a competitor to SLS, but its clear its not in the same rocket class as SLS and definitely not a competitor to Starship which is in a much higher class of vehicle and also aiming for full reusability. New Glenn's turnaround time is not measured in weeks, not yet. I'm not sure how it is "ahead" of Starship when it's not even aiming for the same capability. It's purpose is different. Ergzay (talk) 09:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. Failing to see what's particularly revolutionary about this launch. Slightly bigger, slightly more reusable, slightly different fuel. Ho hum, we don't need to post every incremental change in rocket technology. DarkSide830 (talk) 02:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support on notability. We posted milestones for both Starship and Falcon 9, and we do so for new public-funded (i.e. government made) rockets. There is absolutely no reason to do the same here. Spaceflight is not yet so "mainstream" that new entrants are not "in the news" when they meet milestones such as first orbital launch. I defer to others on article quality and whether it's improved enough to post at this time. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 02:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Interesting news... However, i feel that it falls short of being ITN. Tradedia^talk 03:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Per Nfitz, nom and The Kip. Jusdafax (talk) 05:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose There seems to have been a lot of space news lately including a spacewalk, a double lunar launch, a starship launch, a multiple satellite launch by China and so on. This event doesn't seem to stand out. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose on notability, not apparent that this is a major development of general interest LocoTacoFever (talk) 14:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose on notability per DarkSide830, and only a single prose update. --ExclusiveEditor _{🔔 Ping Me!} 15:22, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Well I guess on this apparent precedent, that we won't be blurbing Starship if it ever makes orbit, or lands something on the moon. (though it seems to be getting more media coverage for it's Caribbean fireworks display! Nfitz (talk) 17:26, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per all above. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb: David Lynch

Article: David Lynch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American filmmaker David Lynch dies at the age of 78. (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Jon698 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Jon698 (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Lynch is the type of person that comes to mind a likely to have a blurb as a major figure in filmmaking, but the doesn't not have legacy section or equivalent, yet, to support this. If that was added I'd support a urb on all other quality aspects (which appear close) Masem (t) 18:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb The death of a film-maker with "the most important film-maker of the current era" in his lede deserves a blurb on the main page. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

  I added a blurb. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is in excellent shape Chaiten1 (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support No notable CN tags or uncited statements, and the article is of excellent quality. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment I just created Draft:Cultural impact of David Lynch. His influence is so massive that an article on his impact is definitely necessary. Thriley (talk) 19:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
  • For timing of posting here, I'd recommend building out two or three good paragraphs on the bio article and worry about expanding later. — Masem (t) 19:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD. Article is in great shape. Sooner posted the better. Moscow Mule (talk) 19:15, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb Even for the more conservative death-as-blurb people, the standard is typically held as being "top of their field" - in 2007, The Guardian literally declared him "the most important filmmaker of the current era." Monumental impact on the world of film and more than deserving of a blurb. The Kip ^(contribs) 19:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support Blurb Article is in good shape, and Lynch is a world wide household name among anyone with more than a passing interest in cinema. Rockview13 (talk) 19:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support RD and oppose blurb - dont see the breadth and depth of coverage as meriting a blurb. nableezy - 19:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb Extremely influential filmmaker who deserves a blurb, although a section explaining his impact would help. Found it interesting that [Lynchian is recognized as a word] by the Oxford English Dictionary - as far as I know, only a few filmmakers have such influence that their names become adjectives in the English language, including Stanley Kubrick, Sergei Eisenstein, Alfred Hitchcock, and Andrei Tarkovsky. Jaguarnik (talk) 19:45, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb was one of the more famous filmmakers of the modern era. Scuba 19:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Top of the field. One criterion for blurb is the existence of works about person. There is film David Lynch: The Art Life. Has Academy Award, won at Cannes. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment If posted as a blurb and using the current picture, please make sure it is captioned as in 1990. Masem (t) 20:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb manner and direct impact of death not notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 20:09, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

  See Major figures in Blurbs for recendt deaths section. Manner of death is for another type of blurb. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support blurb Influential and acclaimed filmmaker, clearly meets the "transformative figure in their field" standard. --CommanderShepardX (talk) 20:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Weak Support blurb I guess the triage would read something like: Would we blurb if this were Spielberg? Yes. Would we blurb if this were Lucas? Probably. Would we blurb if this is Lynch? Depends how many art housey adjudicators there are on Wikipedia that day. CoatCheck (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb - large impact on filmmaking. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 20:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb Twin Peaks alone had a pretty big impact, and combined with everything else? He's definitely important enough. Kevinishere15 (talk) 21:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb Top of his field and article in good shape. Definitely influential filmmaker. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment. Can we somehow put featured list of his Awards in the blurb? Saying that he received honorary Oscar, for instance. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
  • That gets into a bit too much editorializing, as as well as simply having numerous awards is not a reason to post (compare with Jimmy Carter and the frequent mentions of his Nobel peace prize in the news headlines as a case where that is more appropriate) — Masem (t) 23:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted, consensus is for a blurb. Stephen 22:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• I know I'm late, but just to add on to everybody, support blurb. I promise that this support has nothing to do with the fact that Blue Velvet ranks among my top 10 favorite movies of all time (though it doesn't hurt, either). Kurtis ^(talk) 07:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support Top of his field - there are <5 other directors that we would probably blurb (Spielberg, Scorcese, Coppola and Herzog?). Black Kite (talk) 08:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Black Kite: James Cameron. We might also blurb Oliver Stone, Christopher Nolan, Tim Burton, George Lucas, and a few others I can't name off the top of my head. Kurtis ^(talk) 11:51, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

  @Black Kite and Kurtis: Michael Haneke, Pedro Almodóvar and Asghar Farhadi should be clear-cut cases for a blurb one day. I personally think that Béla Tarr should get one as well because of his depth.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support The article got over a million views on the news. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support blurb as he was truly a great and influential director.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Post-posting support I know I'm just preaching to the choir at this point as there's overwhelming support (as there should be), but I felt compelled to pile on. Few artists will ever have the high honor of having their own name be synonymous with a unique style. The influence his works had on film (and television in the case of Twin Peaks) cannot be overstated.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 11:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Retroactive oppose An elderly person who is no longer working in their field dying of a disease they were known to have is not worthy of a blurb. –DMartin 08:38, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

  Just wanted to correct "who is no longer working in their field" – he never retired.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Post-posting strong oppose Per DMartin. Also I'd bet a very strong majority people on Wikipedia never even heard this man's name and even more don't know who he is. Keep this to the recent deaths section. 2607:FEA8:9DE:67E0:D98D:390A:3EE1:CE70 (talk) 02:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Uecker

Article: Bob Uecker (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [16]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Weak support: Article is mostly fine but is missing a few inline citations. MT₍₇₁₀₎ 16:08, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

  Still working to expand and source between meetings today. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support Article is well cited and long enough for ITNRD. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 17:29, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support - with Muboshgu's work, the article looks solid. There's an intriguing dark horse argument for a blurb here, as Uecker reached the pinnacle of his profession (radio baseball broadcasting, although he broke outside that on numerous occasions). That said, I'm not confident it's enough. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 23:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
  • Limit g the profession to "baseball radio broadcasting" is far too narrow, I would expect that it would be at least sportscasters or even journalism, and he definitely is not a major figure. It's very easy to think a local beloved personality (here for Milkwalkie as well as in baseball) may be a great figure but we should think at the scope of worldwide aspects of said field. — Masem (t) 00:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 05:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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